Now this, I can get behind

Sam Amico, if he ran the NBA:

• Anyone who played AAU ball would be ineligible to enter the draft until they turned 21. Anyone who didn’t play AAU ball could enter the draft straight out of high school.

• Trust me, most of the NBA’s problems aren’t because of what takes place in the NBA. Most are because of the butt-kissing buddy system at the lower levels. It’s why guys constantly shrug during interviews (losing is no big deal when you receive a pair of free Nikes at 15), and why LeBron James left Cleveland to play with his friends. Under my plan, the system producing such evils would be squeezed to its knees.

• Every player drafted outside the lottery would be forced to spend his rookie season in the D-League. Not only would it aid player development, but it would give fans a reason to pay attention and increase revenue in the NBA’s farm system.

Of all the various proposals by writers, this is the first I remember that brought up the AAU.  Not that Sam’s idea will have any bearing on reality, but it’s a nice thought.

Posted in Uncategorized | Leave a comment

The Canton Cavaliers?

Not quite, but the Cavs are bringing a D-League team to Canton:

As the NBA lockout enters its second week, the Cavaliers are keeping themselves busy with their new, as yet unnamed NBA Development League team that will play in the Memorial Civic Center here.

The team acquired the former New Mexico Thunderbirds franchise, which folded, and moved it here, about 45 minutes south of the Cavs’ practice facility in Independence.

This could be interesting. The Cavs have a bunch of young guys that could benefit from D-League minutes (Alonzo Gee, Manny Harris, Luke Harongody, Christian Eyenga, etc) and having a Cavaliers-run team in Canton might make the roster movement a bit more fluid. It’s one thing to send a guy down to the D-League, it’s another thing when you can send him to a team just 40 minutes away staffed with YOUR coaches teaching YOUR philosophy.

In other news, it was a year ago today that LeBron made The Decision. If you’re a Cleveland fan reading this (and if you aren’t, why are you here?), do yourself a favor and don’t turn on ESPN today (I highly recommend this WFNY post). You’ll save yourself a lot of angst and frustration.

(Note: I’m not saying that ESPN shouldn’t be doing anything for it. The Decision was a huge deal. It set the tone for the entire NBA season last year…. which just happened to be one of the best seasons ever. I still think he should’ve stayed and that bringing one of his buddies to the Cavs makes them a better team than the bare bones Miami squad and you can go on and on. But if you can’t see how The Decision galvanized the entire NBA last year, you’re kidding yourself).

So instead watching ESPN, do something that won’t piss you off. Read about monkeys stealing some dude’s camera and taking self portraits or watch this amazing lipsnycing video and try not to smile just a little.

Or you can watch this 600 times. Goosebumps.

Posted in Uncategorized | Leave a comment

The other shoe

The Cavaliers have unjammed their logs at power forward:

The Cleveland Cavaliers have traded power forward J.J. Hickson to the Sacramento Kings for swingman Omri Casspi and Sacramento’s protected first-round pick in the 2012 NBA draft.

The teams apparently sought to complete the deal Thursday before midnight to ensure its completion, with a lockout expected at 12:01 a.m. ET Friday.

Man, doesn’t it just suck that a few years ago the Cavs could’ve had Amare Stoudemire but they refused to part with JJ and now they end up trading him for the Jewish Sasha Pavlovic??

If you’ve thought anything like that previous paragraph while contemplating the Hickson trade, congratulations: you’re a moran.

The Cavs never had a real offer for Amare. Listen to Steve Kerr on the BS Report.  There wasn’t a deal. The Amare talk was to bring down the price for Antawn Jamison, who the Cavaliers basically got for free (remember when we all thought Antawn Jamison was a useful basketball player? *sigh*).  Danny Ferry would’ve certainly added JJ to any potentional Stoudemire deal, but it was Phoenix who walked away from the table, not Cleveland.

Back to this deal: I kind of like the trade. I’m OK with moving JJ and I actually like Omri Casspi, but reading the Sacramento message boards, they’re thrilled with deal. Makes me a bit uneasy.

Additionally, the first round pick that the Cavs picked up came with protections. A ton of protections.

The draft pick is lottery-protected next year, top-13 protected in 2013, top-12 protected in 2014 and top-10 protected from 2015-17. If the Cavs don’t receive the pick by 2017, they will receive a second-round pick.

Given the fact that the Cavs just got Kyrie Irving via an unprotected first round pick, I’m not particularly surprised at all the protections. Basically, the next time the Kings make the playoffs, the Cavs get the pick. If by 2017 they still haven’t made it, the pick turns into a second rounder (which I’m not particuarly thrilled with).

From what I can tell, Chris Grant is betting that the Kings will make the playoffs once in the next 5 years. They’re certainly talented, but they may have some chemistry problems. As in between the Jimmer, Tyreke Evans, John Salmons, JJ and DeMarcus Cousins, I’m not sure who’s passing the basketball.

I can certainly understand how Cavs fans can be upset at this deal.  They just went through a month of “JJ+#4 to the T-Wolves for #2″ rumors and now they end up with a swingman most casual fans have never heard of.

Myself, I’m not that enamored with Hickson. Is he talented, yes. But he’s a space cadet on defense and has stone hands. While its true he finished the year with some strong performances, I always felt he’d get pleased with himself a little too easily. He’d make a great offensive play, puff out his chest and then give up a dunk on the other end.

In the end, I feel the Cavs weren’t comfortable giving a guy Byron Scott benched last year $8-$10 million per season, so they flipped him for a young player at position of need (SF) and an extra first rounder. (And if JJ’s ‘nice job’ tweet to LeBron played any factor in this decision… lord help us all).

As for Casspi, the only thing I know is that he started out hot as a rookie and he’s jewish. That’s it. Apparently he’s happy to be traded:

“I’m happy,” said Casspi, who became the first Israeli player in the NBA after being taken 23rd overall by the Kings in 2009. “It’s a great opportunity for me to play. [The Cavs] don’t really have a ’3′-man.”

You right, Omri, they sure don’t. Casspi can plug right in to the starting spot. I’d say a five of Irving-Eyenga-Casspi-Thompson-Varejao should be bad enough for the Cavs to grab another top 5 pick next year, but we all know they’ll start the year (whenever THAT is) with Davis and Jamison starting. They are the veterans, afterall.

The only real issue I have with the deal is that it feels rushed. With the lockout starting at midnight Thursday, the Cavs made sure they got this deal doe in time. I dunno, I just find it hard to believe that the Cavs couldn’t find a better offer than a developing swingman and a first round pick wearing a chastity belt. Terry Pluto seems to agree (emphasis mine):

Q: Why did the Kings trade him?

A: They have a lot of small forwards: John Salmons, Tyler Honeycutt and Donte Green. They need power forwards. They gave up a player who is not in their long-term plans and a draft pick that won’t be in the top 10. They take almost no risk on this deal.

Q: Is the risk is mostly with the Cavs?

A: This trade will tell us much about Chris Grant and the general manager’s scouts. They have liked Casspi for two years. They don’t say it, but they must believe that taking Casspi out of the losing and constant changes that have been part of Sacramento basketball and bringing him to the Cavs under a disciplined coach will help Casspi meet the optimistic projections they made for him two years ago.

Q: What’s the bottom line?

A: I’m OK with trading Hickson, I just wish they had received more in return.

I agree. The results of the Thompson pick and the JJ trade are going to tell us a lot about Chris Grant and his guys. They were if not bold, at least proactive, moves.

For what it’s worth, Marc Stein tweets that the Cavs are trying to move their trade exception before midnight:

Closest thing to good news heard today: Cavs still very open to making another trade before midnight using their $14.6M trade exception

No deal imminent at last report but CLE preference is using it now since no one knows if such exceptions will even exist in next labor pact

CLE exception expires July 11 under current CBA. But we’ll be in midst of lockout then, so Cavs motivated to keep looking for deals tonight

So that’s neat.

Overall, I’m optimisic about the deal. I was on board with moving JJ but, like Pluto (amongst others, I’m sure), I wish they got more than just Casspi.

Posted in NBA | Leave a comment

Sipping that post-draft Kool-Aid

As each day goes by, the more I talk myself into the Cavs’ draft.  I mean, did you know ESPN did a Sports Science on Tristan Thompson!? Athletic!

Not that the segment itself matters (OMG, he planted with 1,300 lbs of force!!!), but it shows how good an athlete Thompson is and can be. The Cavs “advanced analytics” seemingly bear this out:

While many were surprised to see Thompson selected, the Cavs rely heavily on advanced analytics, which chart how effective a player will be five years down the road. When Thompson’s statistics, age and efficiency were put into Cleveland’s formula, Thompson actually had a higher rating than Irving. The numbers also ranked Thompson higher than recent big men selected in the top ten such as Greg Monroe and Derrick Favors.

So maybe Grant wasn’t completely full of shit when he says they’ve had Thompson ranked high all year.

Plus, I like the fact that Irving and Thompson are friends.

As the fourth overall pick was announced, Irving was being asked a question, but kept leaning over to the television to see who would be joining him in Cleveland. After seeing Thompson was the selection, Irving smiled and his eyes lit up.

“I’m really looking forward to it,” Irving said. “Tristan is a great friend of mine, and just having another fellow freshman being drafted to Cleveland and playing with him, I’m really excited. He’s also a young player, and having somebody alongside you that will go through the rookie ups and downs with you, it will make the transition into the NBA that much easier.”

[snip]

“I love it,” Thompson said. “One of my strengths and attributes is getting up and down the floor so playing with Kyrie, it’s going to be exciting. Knowing Kyrie and having a friendship prior to the draft, it’s definitely [better] having somebody there to support you and go through what you go through. He’s almost like a brother to me, and will have my back and I’ll have his. We’ll get through this together.”

It’s always better to play with someone you like rather than a jerk, no?

Both Irving and Thompson are supposed to high character guys and hard workers (Grant calls them “high-quality humans”- which is kinda weird) and combining that with their friendship (not to mention Thompson’s athleticism) I can see what the Cavs were thinking.

With nothing more to add, I give you Beats Antique, one of my post-Bonnaroo downloads. They’re fun:

Posted in Bonnaroo, Cavaliers, music | 1 Comment

Other People’s Thoughts

Jason Lloyd, Akron Beacon Journal:

* The Cavs insist Thompson was their top target with the No. 4 pick from the start. Whether or not that is true will never be known, but it was clear they were scared off by Jonas Valanciunas’ murky European contract. Had they known the parameters of his buyout, I believe they would’ve selected him fourth. But the Cavs were true to their word. If they didn’t know precisely when Valanciunas would be available, they weren’t taking him.

* Once Valanciunas was eliminated from the pile, who else were they supposed to take at No. 4? With Derrick Williams and Enes Kanter going second and third, the options were limited. Had the Utah Jazz selected Brandon Knight third, the Cavs could’ve maybe taken Kanter fourth and traded down a few spots and still wound up with Thompson. They could’ve taken Valanciunas for the sole purpose of trading him, since interest in him seemed to increase closer to the draft.

* Could they have gotten Thompson a few spots lower? Yeah, probably. And in fact, they did try hard to move around a little bit. But the pieces didn’t match up, so they stayed right where they were and took the guy they wanted all along. I remember Browns GM Tom Heckert talking after his first draft, which netted Joe Haden and T.J. Ward at the top. Fans were scratching their heads why they took Ward so high, to which Heckert replied simply: When your guy is there, take him. Sometimes you can get cute and try to get him lower, only to miss out on him entirely. When a guy you want is there at the spot you are drafting, sometimes it’s best to just take him.

Terry Pluto:

6. Why did the Cavs take Thompson? They didn’t want to wait as long as two years for Jonas Valanciunas to get free of his European contract. These situations can be very messy. That must have been the case here, because the Cavs really like the 7-foot Valanciunas.

7. My thought is the Cavs have their own Valanciunas, only he is more advanced. He’s 7-foot Semih Erden, acquired from Boston. Erden will be 25 on July 28. He spent most of the season with Boston, and was hurt after coming to Cleveland. Erden averaged 4.0 points and shot 56 percent in 14.5 minutes a game this season. Here, he played only 64 minutes, shooting 4-of-14 with 13 points and 11 rebounds.

…..

11. The Cavs compile a lot of complicated internal stats for rating prospects, much like what ESPN’s John Hollinger uses. Hollinger rated Derrick Williams and Thompson as the two best big men in the draft: “Thompson and Williams had the highest ratings of any player in the Draft Rater this year, and while that doesn’t come with the same assurances it does for Kyrie Irving, they both appear to be very solid prospects. Of the 13 players who rated at 15.5 or above in previous iterations, most were very successful as pros. The ones that weren’t tended to fail due to injuries and lack of professionalism — issues that shouldn’t be factors for Thompson and Williams.”

12. Hollinger rated Thompson the No. 3 player in the draft.

Bill Simmons, ESPN:

7:56 – Curveball from the Cavs at no. 4: They take Tristan Thompson, the Texas forward who’s also (a) the highest Canadian-born pick ever, (b) someone who likes to tweet Confuscius-like messages like “”One man trash is another man treasure. So you better know what you got, before it’s gone,” and (c) the No. 1 Draft Pick for this year’s Lindsey Hunter All-Stars (for athletes whose names make them sound like supermodels). “He just needs to learn how to play and how to score,” Bilas says. I think I need more from my fourth pick than that sentence. Weird choice. Or, this draft is horrible. One or the other.

7:58 – Stu tells us that Thompson is our third active NBA player born in Canada, joining Joel Anthony and Jamaal Magloire. We need a name for these awkwardly enlightening Stu facts when he’s trying to spruce up a throw to commercial. I say we call them “Stidbits.” Regardless, I’m writing each one down in case there’s a quiz later.

Matt Moore, CBS Sports:

Winners

Cleveland Cavaliers: Irving is mostly a case of winning by default, but they wouldn’t have been the first team to be unable to get out of their own way with an obvious pick. Irving gives them a franchise point guard to build around and was the best player overall in this draft. Going for Derrick Williams would have been sheer hubris in order to burn LeBron by choosing a replacement forward. Then, with the fourth, they could have opted for Valanciunas, which would have been a good pick. But there’s a reason so many teams were chasing Tristan Thompson. His workouts showed how he would translate on the next level, and with that kind of athleticism, he provides a good running partner for Irving. They managed to not overcomplicate the combination of two top-five picks. They got good talent both small and big. That’s a win right there.

Mark Spears, Yahoo Sports:

Loser: Cleveland Cavaliers

The Cavaliers did their due diligence leading into the draft by working out Duke guard Kyrie Irving and Arizona forward Derrick Williams – in addition to also working out Turkish center Enes Kanter, Kentucky guard Brandon Knight and Texas forward Tristan Thompson twice. But the Cavs also let Irving, supposedly the new face of the franchise, nervously wait out their selection without confirming he was the first pick.

The New Jersey native was a near-consensus top pick, so if you’re going to wait that long to tell him, you might as well be daring enough to draft someone else.

“I knew when everybody else knew,” Irving said. “They gave me no indication that they were going to pick me. I was really nervous sitting at that table with my family and my friends.”

Winner: Tristan Thompson

There were some raised eyebrows when Thompson left Texas after his freshman year, especially because there were several other players in his class that were regarded higher than him. Even in a down draft, the 6-foot-8, 235-pound forward was expected to be selected in the latter half of the lottery. But the highest-drafted Canadian ever was the surprise of the night when he was taken fourth overall by the Cavaliers. Cleveland now has a talented 19-year-old inside-outside combo to build around for the future in Irving and Thompson.

“I know a lot of people never expected it and neither did myself,” Thompson said. “It just shows the wonders that hard work puts in.”

Sports Illustrated Draft Analysis:

Kyrie Irving, SI Rank: 10.0. Irving isn’t LeBron James, but he may have a little bit of Chris Paul in his game. That was enough for the Cavs to deem him the King of this rebuilding process, and it’s not hard to see why. Incumbent Baron Davis is a pricey (two years, $28.7 million left on his contract) and unreliable veteran, and Ramon Sessions isn’t the answer either. The unselfish Irving has fantastic court vision and is an able passer and a good shooter. He’s hardly the most spectacular No. 1 pick we’ve seen, but the Cavs are now confident they have their floor leader for a generation to come.

Tristan Thompson, SI Rank 9.0: Thompson shot up the draft boards in the last 48 hours, with his motor and desire to improve resonating with a Cavs team that wants to add impact players now. He can score, rebound and defend. In other words, he’s the poster boy for this draft: not sexy as a player but effective and looking at a long career. The Cavs were slated to take Lithuanian big man Jonas Valanciunas here, but his sticky buyout situation with his overseas team clearly scared them away. Valanciunas might not be able to play in the NBA next season because of the contract.

Ian Thompson, SI.com:

The trend began with the Cavaliers, who were looking to recast themselves in the vacuum created by LeBron James’s abrupt departure last summer. They didn’t invest in Kyrie Irving with the idea that he would dominate athletically like other young point guards. Instead they’re counting on Irving to fulfill his ability by playing with an edge. He has a ruthlessness which — along with his extended shooting range and feel for the game — gives him a chance to compete with more explosive opponents.

The Cavs’ No. 4 pick, Tristan Thompson, is a low-post scorer with an admirable work ethic, and the latter quality was abundant in this draft.

Kurt Helin, ProBasketballTalk, NBC:

No. 1, Cleveland Cavaliers: Kyrie Irving, 6’3” point guard, Duke: The deserving No. 1 pick in this draft, a quality point guard who the Cavaliers can use as a key piece in rebuilding. He’s a pure point guard — good at penetration but he is as likely to pass as shoot. Good court awareness. Good off the pick and roll, expect to see a lot of that in Cleveland. The only question is experience, he played just 11 games on his one and only year at Duke. He’s not the athlete/player that Derrick Rose is (or Chris Paul, or Deron Williams) and Cavs fans can’t expect that. But he will be good, an All-Star a couple times and is a piece to start a long rebuilding process with.

No. 4. Cleveland Cavaliers: Tristan Thompson, 6’9” power forward, Texas: This pick is a bit of a surprise. There is a lot of potential here, but if you just watched him in the NCAA Tournament and big games you might not have seen it. As a freshman, against other top teams, he didn’t impress. That said he is long, a good shot blocker, rebounds and brings a lot of effort every time out. He is raw on offense and needs a perimeter game, which is why this pick is a bit of a surprise (the Cavs need scoring). But clearly they think he can develop it (or they picked it for a trade….). Highest pick ever of a Canadian-born player.

Helin’s Draft Grades:

Cleveland Cavaliers (19-63): They made the right move with Kyrie Irving, but Tristan Thompson seems like a reach. A lot of teams like him but his offense is so raw, I wasn’t a fan. Not loving their night because it feels like it could have been better, but they got the best guy overall.
Grade: B

Henry Abbot, TrueHoop, ESPN:

Irving admits to just about idolizing James and Chris Paul.

“When I was younger,” Irving said shortly after being drafted Thursday night, “I used to watch countless hours of video of both of them working out. When I say, try to emulate their journey, just the way they transitioned themselves, LeBron coming from high school into the NBA and Chris Paul coming from college into the NBA, and the way they conducted themselves on and off the court, is truly as a professional should. A lot of community service, just taking care of the family, and that’s kind of how I envision myself.”

They’re two of the most successful players in NBA history. It’s not so odd that a player a half-decade younger would look up to them.

But that this one does and went to that city, where the owner, some players and a big chunk of fans are on the record as archly anti-James … that creates an odd potential for friction.

Or an evolution of sorts.

This is the kind of thing that could, ordinarily, just be politely ignored by all involved. In this case, I’m not sure that’s so. James hatred is one of the biggest stories in sports. And Irving is a talker, a deft communicator — when the Cavaliers drafted him, they got both a player and a face of the franchise. They need him to talk, and he’ll succeed at that.

But it’s hard to imagine anyone as passionate about James and as vocal as Irving sitting this one out all year. The issue is going to come up all the time, and he’s going to have a hard time saying things that won’t fit the narrative in Cleveland.

As for myself, the morning after, I’m still cautiously optimistic. I can get behind Tristan Thompson and I’m still fine with them flipping the 32nd pick. Refreshing twitter and listening to WKNR this morning, I feel like a lot of people had high hopes for a Big Splash and they were let down by the Cavs inactivity. People were hoping for three top 10 picks or somehow landing both Irving and Derrick Williams or buying back into the first or using the trade exception…. and they just end up staying at 1 and 4 (and they trade 32!).

I can see how people can be let down, but I have a hard time killing GMs for the moves they don’t make. If the price isn’t worth it, the price isn’t worth it. Trading 4 and next year’s first to grab Derrick Williams would be a disaster in my eyes and I have yet to see a trade exception rumor that excites me.

I can live with Kyrie Irving and Tristan Thompson.

Posted in Uncategorized | Leave a comment

To be continued…

They can’t be done, can they? It’s hard to judge this draft without seeing the Cavs’ subsequent moves.  This team currently has four point guards (Kyrie Irving, Baron Davis, Ramon Sessions, Boobie Gibson) and five power forwards (JJ Hickson, Tristan Thompson, Anderson Varejao, Antawn Jamison, Samardo Samuels). They till have their trade exception (until July 8th or so) and they have some major logjams. Other moves are coming. Right?

(Although, I do want them to suck and draft high again next year, so maybe a team full of undersized PFs is the way to go. Hmmm).

With the first pick…. Kyrie Irving, PG, Duke: cool. I’m fine with the Cavs selecting the consensus best player in the draft, not to mention a top notch point guard and leader.  Complain all you want about the later picks (and people have), but bottom line, Cavs got the best player on the board. I can live with that.

4th: Tristan Thompson, PF, Texas: I wasn’t exactly high on him before the draft and that hasn’t really changed all that much. He’s a power forward, on a team filled with power forwards. Part of me feels like Grant took Thompson in order to trade, but when the Raptors immediately took Jonas Valanciunas at 5, the Cavs were stuck.

And even if they really like Thompson (and Grant did say they’ve been high on him all year), I feel like they could’be traded down and still ended up him. I mean, Thompson wasn’t projected to go that high (or even top ten on some boards). Terry Pluto says that they really did like Valanciunas, but were scared off by the buyout:

They really like the 19-year-old Valanciunas. But they also know that it’s hard to ask a fan base to wait that long for a No. 4 pick in the draft — and then assume that he will indeed develop. You draft a wait-and-see European player late in the first or the second round — but not at No. 4.

I never like making personnel moves based on fan reaction, so I hope Grant is telling the truth when he said they had Thompson rated high on their board all along… rather than being scared at the backlash for having to wait a (lock-out shortened) season on a player (who happens to play center, you know, a position of need).

With the 32nd pick, the Cavs took another power forward, Justin Harper, but turned around and gave him to Orlando for two future second round picks (I wanna say 2013 & 14, but I could be wrong). While I have a hard time arguing against turning one 2nd round pick into two 2nd round picks, I have to wonder whether either of those two picks will be higher than 32. Not only that, but I find it hard to believe that there was no one available at 32 that they thought was better than Manny Harris or Alonzo Gee. I mean, I know it’s a very weak draft and all but really? No one?

With the 54th pick, the Cavs took yet another power forward, Milan Macvan, who they expect to stay overseas for a year or two.  He’s allegedly really physical and bruising. So that’s neat.

Some folks got really pissed that the Cavaliers passed on Ohio State guard David Lighty. Meh. First of all, if they so wish, the Cavs can still grab Lighty as an undrafted free agent and second, I refuse to get upset over the 54th pick in the NBA draft.  We’re gonna get pissed over the 54th pick? Really?

Overall, draft night turned out to be kind of a dud, especially given some of the expectations (could we get Irving AND Williams??!?!!). Cleveland didn’t jump back in the first round, yet again they decided not to simply buy a pick and asides from Irving, they chose players the casual fans haven’t heard of.

The biggie is the Tristan Thompson pick at 4 (it did kinda come out of left field) but I have a hard time killing it. I don’t know much about him (the Cavs seem to like his work ethic and athleticism), but hey, I don’t know much about the Euro big men either.

I guess the problem with Thompson is that, if you’ve decided that J.J. Hickson isn’t the long term answer at power forward, why not go with Derrick Williams instead? And with seeing Brandon Knight fall to 8, we know that a Williams & Knight scenario was a realistic possibility. And while I think the Williams/Knight combo is the flashier move, I have a hard time admonishing Grant for deciding not to pass on the consensus number one pick.

(Plus hey, Thompson did hold Williams to 4-14 shooting when they met in the tournament. Heh, though Williams hit the game winner…)

How you feel about this draft basically comes down to which PG/PF combo you prefer, Irving & Thompson or Williams & Knight. Maybe that’s simplifying things a bit (you culd be really high on Valanciunas or David freaking Lighty for all I know) but asides from trusting Grant’s future trades, that’s the big question for Cavs fans:

Is Kyrie Irving + Tristan Thompson > Derrick Williams + Brandon Knight?

I believe I think so.

 

Posted in Uncategorized | 4 Comments

[Some kind of 'draft' pun]

I really have no idea what the Cavs are going to do Thursday night (and neither do Kyrie Irving or Derrick Williams).

I also have no idea what I even want the Cavs to do. Well, unless Terry Pluto’s dream scenario comes true and they somehow land both Irving and Williams. *fingers crossed*

The Cavs have kept people in the dark, which I like, as they’re in the driver’s seat Thursday night and have the potential to make some moves.

(Also, part of the reason for all the intrigue is that this draft is short on SGs and SFs, which is what the Cavs really need. Well, unless you’re sold on Alonzo Gee’s longterm prospects).

All of the mock drafts I’ve seen have the Cavs taking Irving but reportedly, GM Chris Grant likes Irving while owner Dan Gilbert prefers Williams:

Maybe it’s only a smokescreen, but word came out of Cleveland this past week that there is a split on whom the Cavs will take with the No. 1 pick in Thursday’s draft. GM Chris Grant wants Kyrie Irving, the Duke playmaker out of West Orange, N.J. But owner Dan Gilbert is said to favor Arizona forward Derrick Williams.

I swing back and forth between the two. I’ll be quite fine with Irving (Byron Scott’s offense needs a PG) but I like that fact that Derrick Williams thinks he’s the best player in the draft (of course, Enes Kanter thinks the same thing). But I like the confidence and swagger.

The problem with Williams is that he doesn’t have a position. He’s not fast enough to guard NBA small forwards and he’s just a tad undersized to be a four. Plus, the minute you draft Williams, J.J. Hickson’s trade value plummets (you’d almost certainly have to trade J.J., unless you want to have the first overall pick playing out of position).

If the Cavs take Williams first and stand pat at 4 (as they’ve said they will), I’d like that fourth pick to be Brandon Knight but apparently that’s not very likely. If this draft is deep in anything besides Euros, it’s point guards, so depending on how they view Knight, it’s possible they could pass on Irving and still end up with their Point Guard of the Future.

However, assuming Irving goes first, the obvious pick at 4 is one of the European big men, Enes Kanter or Jonas Valanciunas. Both guys come with significant risk. Kanter was recruited by Kentucky, but sat out last season due to NCAA violations (so if you draft him with Irving, you’re getting two would-be sophomores who played a combined 11 games their freshman year). Valanciunas is supposedly the better long-term prospect of the two, but has a tricky buyout with his European club.

When the Cavs got the 1st and 4th picks, I initially wanted Irving and Kanter (which still isn’t a bad way to go), but as we’ve moved along, I like the idea of stashing Valanciunas overseas for a year.  I’m of the belief that the Cavs need to be drafting top 10 (if not top 5) next season and if you’re gonna suck, why not grab the long term prospect and let him develop? Who cares if Kanter is better next season if Valanciunas is better in three?

Most of the mocks I linked above had the Cavs selecting Valanciunas or Kanter but SI’s Sam Amick writes it could be Tristan Thompson:

I’m admittedly shocked to be dropping this early bombshell, but a source said there are strong indications this could be the pick as long as Kanter is off the board by No. 4. The Cavs need a player who can contribute now, and I think Lithuanian center Jonas Valanciunas gets passed up here because he doesn’t fit those parameters. Huge upside and all, his buyout with his Lietuvos Rytas team (which was first reported by DraftExpress.com) prohibits him from playing in the NBA next season, and that is a problem for Cleveland. If the Cavs don’t opt for Thompson, I’m told it will be a surprise if he gets out of the top 10.

Who is Tristan Thompson? This guy:

The 6-9 Thompson is a banger of a power forward, but he lacks anything resembling polish at this stage of his career. He made less than half of his free throws, his Points per possession on jump shots was the lowest in this year’s crop of big men, and his posts per possessions on post-ups was the second-lowest mark. (Data courtesy of Draftexpress.com.)

Awesome. They’d take a guy who wouldn’t otherwise be in the top ten because they don’t want to wait a year or two for Valanciunas? YAY FORWARD THINKING. (Now, if they trade down and take Valanciunas later, I’m cool).

Needless to say, this draft is odd and the Cavs have a lot of options (that’s not even counting their two second round selections).

At the end of the day, I think I’m leaning towards Irving and a Euro-big (I’ll be happy with either Kanter or Valanciunas), but I’m OK with them taking Williams first, especially if they nab Knight.

And if they somehow end up with both Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams, well, I’ll probably end up hurting myself and others during my massive celebration.

Posted in Cavaliers | 1 Comment